Were use to seeing and knowing that JMJ in the past sat down, took time out and created complex and simple patterns from scratch. But that was yesteryear. Today it's a lot more easy for musicians to sit down, trawl through (minimum) dozens and (maximum) hundreds of preset patterns taht are already a complete section of track waiting to be used. With the T&T album & MC-808, no one is 100% certain to what came first - the album or the MC-808. Yes, we can only speculate until we hear it directly from the horses mouth (so to speak). So until then, it's all guess work based on what evidence has been brought forward - so far. It's a musical jigsaw puzzle. It certainly would be nice if Jarre addressed this matter, but until then, if it will ever happen, back to speculating.Antigoon wrote:OK, here's me throwing a baseballbat in the chickencage.
One thing here makes me shake my head a lot.
So what if JMJ used presets on his new album, why is it a problem for so many PPL here?
Why do they come up with all sorts of lame excuses to defend it? Especialy the "defend it" part. Some of you make up the most rediculess story about him being involved in creating those sounds etc... In essence you're saying the most obvious thing is not OK, you're not willing to accept that JMJ just pushed a button to make an album (a good album IMO)
Why is it so hard for many of you to accept the obvious? Why not just except it and enjoy the music?
Explain this to me why this would not be OK?
If it turns out that JMJ took the time to create for Roland for what ever deal he had with them, and made these patterns, great, a synth with direct Jarre sounds already and waiting to be brought. If Jarre didn't create these patterns and just took them from the 808, not much of a big deal to some as most musicians do this anyway, plus that's what they are there for - to be used. But if it's the latter, then the problem that some people have is that Jarre has become lazy in his old age. He took the easy option. That's not a crime, but it may well have been to those who look up to Jarre and admire his "creative" skills that has made him a house old name for the past 30+ years.
Does this have the same feeling for those who follow 'Kraftwerk'? (just a example). That stage when they first started on stage using hardware synths, then turned to software. Some may like that move, others may not. It's a divided opinion of which we are all entitled too.
In laymans terms, music has changed a great deal. It's a lot more easy to create tracks today than it was 20 years ago. How many synths 20 years ago had that option of producing a near full track just by pressing a key/button, unlike those which you can walk into a music store and take off the shelf today.
Jarre had a bash at the "dance" circuit. T&T is not to every Jarre fans liking. But that's not the end of the world. He hasn't said "this is going to be my last album - ever!". You learn from your lessons, and Jarre has already commented how poorly the album has been received, so he's learning his lessons. He's (hopefully) ready to move onto pastures new and maybe, just maybe, go back to the style we are all familiar with - soundscaping Jarre. Then again he may just continue with the dance styles until he gets it right - with the fans and media.
In Jarres 40 years of making music, he can't get it right every time. The T&T album, though it has it's good points and bad points, basically it was a glitch in his long established music career. Most of us will remember the T&T album as the "Oh, that album". Personally I think it's a catchy album. Not Jarre as we know him, but atleast he had a bash at something new. Something for his CV.

