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Geiss Matrisequencer 250


Post Posted Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:05 pm
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Isn't this the image that appeared in the Jarre biogrophy by Remilleux, Im sure I have seen it somewhere before.
Yes it is, I forgot to precise that.
Post Posted Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:30 pm
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I thought it was, thanks. I will have to get myself another copy of that book as my other copy got damaged after a small flood.
Post Posted Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:42 pm
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PHASEREFFECT wrote:
The absolute Hammer would be a sort of LED´s -inside- of -each- hole and a touch-sensitive demultiplex-circuit, which reacts on fingertips on the holes. So you wouldn´t need pins for programming -and- you would be able to use the Matrix as a sort of Display (for Setup properties, for example) Stef

Isn't that similar to how the Digisequencer works????
Post Posted Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:06 pm
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Equin(00)xe wrote:
PHASEREFFECT wrote:
The absolute Hammer would be a sort of LED´s -inside- of -each- hole and a touch-sensitive demultiplex-circuit, which reacts on fingertips on the holes. So you wouldn´t need pins for programming -and- you would be able to use the Matrix as a sort of Display (for Setup properties, for example) Stef

Isn't that similar to how the Digisequencer works????
I have no idea, i know too few about it. Curious, I also had not considered this thing. ....reminds me a bit on a situaton where i´ve mailed to Natalie, that i wanna make a Album, which reflects each hour of a day of a human life, but i had no Idea about the "sense" of the Equinoxe Album. Yes, so things add themselves together .

Stef
Post Posted Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:07 am
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Hi!

I'd like to show you the building off in steps :)

Here's my first attempt in creating the GMS250. I decided first to do a GMS125 version because it fit's perfectly on _my_ screen. I'll make a full 250 lateron It's then simply copy 'n paste for the second half :)

Too bad the original pic is a bit unsharp but it's a start. I can always redesign it lateron. For now it supplies the measurements and positions.
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I'll post some more picz or even a flick to show how it operates :) First the GFX part then the functional part (usually they go along simultaniously). First problem already is Reaktor works with 4px * 4px as smalest alignable objects and in a multiple of 4 so... that's bad if I want the full 250 on 1024 width max.. The GFX will be far more work then to make it actually work...

J.
Post Posted Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:32 am
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Interesting... :) :D

Will you make this work as a VST plugin? :D
Post Posted Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:55 am
PHASEREFFECT


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What should i say then?

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Only the Matrix decoding and LED controlling unit for now (48 Steps). Then comes the octave holes/their decoder/"interpreter" and the rest of the holes. Then the up/down buttons and their control unit, after that a Sort of "Polyphonic" CV encoder, the Midi control processor, the Clock generator (inside the microcon) blahblahblah....

Stef
Post Posted Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:44 am
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Wow, what a nice project. Cool to have a bunch of rare-instruments VSTs
Post Posted Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:24 am
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Synthesist wrote:Wow, what a nice project. Cool to have a bunch of rare-instruments VSTs
Stef's version is the real thing: hardware!!

My version is, as you can see, for NI's Reaktor.. aka zachte waar (software)

I won't be able to do anything about it today since today is the final session for the Album pre-mastering!!!!

J.
Post Posted Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:43 am
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Oooh... good luck then :)
Post Posted Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:00 am
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Ok thats also pretty cool, Im looking forward to some demos from both of you.
Post Posted Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:51 am
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LeoDaV wrote:
Synthesist wrote:Wow, what a nice project. Cool to have a bunch of rare-instruments VSTs
Stef's version is the real thing: hardware!!
Nah, using that or that, it´s somewhere the same. But i strongly doubt that i´ll ever get this thing working because of a missing and freely available matrix in this size=>it would be simply too expensive to use real switches. -Or- i build by my own a Matrix, but that´s a lot of work.

I would do first a normal hardware version without special "extensions", then -maybe- later adding something like dump programs by SysEx or storing/recall them in memory.

Stef
Post Posted Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:20 pm
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It is one of my wishes to build once real matrisequencer. With a modular synth.
"If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem"

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Post Posted Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:36 pm
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As i´ve found out, are Patchfields in this size only available from two manufacturers (the last ones) and they produce only fields, where the x-axis must have the same amount of dots like the y-axis and -only- by request. The prices are very high too, a 8x8 Marix without pins about 80-100€, a single pin about 2-3€. That means you would easily lost over 1000 Euro alone for the Matrix and that is, of course, way too expensive. Even if would build a selfmade-Matrix, from where should i buy the Pins?

No way, guys. The only possibilities would be once the "touch-sensitive hole"-solution or push-buttons with momentary action; i´m able to get these for a very low price. That additionally means a re-design using at least a memory chip>2K.

I´ll work later on a solution.

Stef
Post Posted Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:08 pm
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Works...currently as a smaller Version....you´ll press a key, the device switches automatically to the row and adds the pressed key into the memory. Only the function of turning off a key is missing, but that comes all...

Edit: Driven by a Microcontroller.

http://www.phasereffect.com/nopub/test1.wmv

Stef
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