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TR-808 in Rendez-Vous 4 ?


Post Posted Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:54 pm
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I have made cover of Rendez 4, and I think the drums are ok, using Linn 9000 samples, but I can see on the CD, that he uses Linn and TR-808 on that song.
Any ideas for what?

Rendez 4 cover
Post Posted Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:59 pm
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I have no idea, but perhaps to spice up the kick and snares? They sound a bit too 'dull' with the Linn only...

Anyhow. Great cover and awesome vid! :D
:mrgreen:
Post Posted Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:10 pm
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GeeJee wrote:I have no idea, but perhaps to spice up the kick and snares? They sound a bit too 'dull' with the Linn only...

Anyhow. Great cover and awesome vid! :D
Thanks, but I almost forgot, I have cheated, in the snare there is a sample of the Souvenir of China snare, that is totally isolated in the end of the song :)
I think it sounded a bit like that sound :)
Post Posted Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:44 pm
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thhedk wrote:I have made cover of Rendez 4, and I think the drums are ok, using Linn 9000 samples, but I can see on the CD, that he uses Linn and TR-808 on that song.
Any ideas for what?

Rendez 4 cover
Hey! Me likes this very much! sounds a lot better than the real thing being played live at the moment, well done!
Post Posted Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:43 pm
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thhedk wrote:I have made cover of Rendez 4, and I think the drums are ok, using Linn 9000 samples, but I can see on the CD, that he uses Linn and TR-808 on that song.
Any ideas for what?

Rendez 4 cover

I think TR808 was used for hi-hat, and it seems to be a slight delay or chorus on it. Maybe the whole drums are doubled by 808. I just get a try on it, check this.

RDV 4 Drums test

BTW, exellent works on RDV i like it very much, Bravo ! Maybe just reduce EG release on bass. And nice video too ^^

Good job
Post Posted Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:17 pm
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@ thhedk : great cover and great video! Did you use Korg's arpeggiator or did you program every note for the fast arpeggio notes? Very very good!

As to the drums I think that the main rhythm is ONLY TR-808.
The "pulse" rhythm is 808 KICK+SNARE and the also hats are clearly 808.
I think the Linn 9000 was used as a sequencer (actually it was a very good sequencer at the time) and might be responsible for some percussion fx.

I think the use of Linn samples and the overall reverb amount make the cover sounding more like the Huston live version.
Post Posted Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:26 pm
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Pete wrote:@ thhedk : great cover and great video! Did you use Korg's arpeggiator or did you program every note for the fast arpeggio notes? Very very good!

As to the drums I think that the main rhythm is ONLY TR-808.
The "pulse" rhythm is 808 KICK+SNARE and the also hats are clearly 808.
I think the Linn 9000 was used as a sequencer (actually it was a very good sequencer at the time) and might be responsible for some percussion fx.

I think the use of Linn samples and the overall reverb amount make the cover sounding more like the Huston live version.
Thanks.
Some of the sequencing I just played, it's easy today when you can quantize it.
But the fast sequencer is a pattern where I play the transpose via the keybord, this is the only way he could do that in 1986 I am sure.
I think I got the drums sound ok with the Linn9000, but I can't find a good sample of 808, anyone got it??

But you might have a point, because the slower sequencer is not the same all the way, so it's not a fixed pattern. It is clearly quantized so it is not played "live". Here the Linn9000 might have worked as a sequencer.

Anyone got a 808 sample pack?
Post Posted Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:44 am
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thhedk wrote:
Pete wrote:@ thhedk : great cover and great video! Did you use Korg's arpeggiator or did you program every note for the fast arpeggio notes? Very very good!

As to the drums I think that the main rhythm is ONLY TR-808.
The "pulse" rhythm is 808 KICK+SNARE and the also hats are clearly 808.
I think the Linn 9000 was used as a sequencer (actually it was a very good sequencer at the time) and might be responsible for some percussion fx.

I think the use of Linn samples and the overall reverb amount make the cover sounding more like the Huston live version.
Thanks.
Some of the sequencing I just played, it's easy today when you can quantize it.
But the fast sequencer is a pattern where I play the transpose via the keybord, this is the only way he could do that in 1986 I am sure.
I think I got the drums sound ok with the Linn9000, but I can't find a good sample of 808, anyone got it??

But you might have a point, because the slower sequencer is not the same all the way, so it's not a fixed pattern. It is clearly quantized so it is not played "live". Here the Linn9000 might have worked as a sequencer.

Anyone got a 808 sample pack?
http://aminet.net/mods/smpl/tr-808.lha
ps. same site have also other tr-series samples go main page.
Post Posted Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:57 am
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Beelooo wrote: I think TR808 was used for hi-hat, and it seems to be a slight delay or chorus on it. Maybe the whole drums are doubled by 808. I just get a try on it, check this.

RDV 4 Drums test

BTW, exellent works on RDV i like it very much, Bravo ! Maybe just reduce EG release on bass. And nice video too ^^

Good job
You might be right, I was just so focused on the Linn9000, and I still think it sounds ok, but could be even more perfect with the 808 drums.

There is a 7ms left/right delay on the HiHats.

What is EG Release? I'm not sure, because it is not called that in Reason 4
Post Posted Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:53 pm
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thhedk wrote:
You might be right, I was just so focused on the Linn9000, and I still think it sounds ok, but could be even more perfect with the 808 drums.

There is a 7ms left/right delay on the HiHats.

What is EG Release? I'm not sure, because it is not called that in Reason 4
The Amp Envelope release. I think it is too long on the bass.

So you use korg poly6 and reason for the cover ?
Post Posted Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:29 pm
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Beelooo wrote:
thhedk wrote:
You might be right, I was just so focused on the Linn9000, and I still think it sounds ok, but could be even more perfect with the 808 drums.

There is a 7ms left/right delay on the HiHats.

What is EG Release? I'm not sure, because it is not called that in Reason 4
The Amp Envelope release. I think it is too long on the bass.

So you use korg poly6 and reason for the cover ?
Ok, but I am not doing another version now, I almost became tired of the song after 100 hours :o)

NÃ¥ the synth on the video is just for show (a bit like Jarre's concerts ;o) the song is made 100% in Reason, exept a compressor I put on the final file in Audition.
Post Posted Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:26 pm
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thhedk wrote:
Anyone got a 808 sample pack?
If you use reason, you can even use rebirth with it ; then you'll have 808 and 909 samples

The only problem is that rebirth don't really like 48 and 96khz....
Post Posted Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:39 pm
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Hi, your cover is very impressive!

What did you use for the effects resonance?
Post Posted Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:15 pm
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keran wrote:Hi, your cover is very impressive!

What did you use for the effects resonance?
Thanks
Hmm, can you be more precise?
Post Posted Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:16 pm
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do you mean resonant effects?
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