Blah Blah Cafe, the Jean-Michel Jarre forum

[Mogwai]

As for the MP7 research... here is v6.0: click me

I did some rework on the EQ's... BD is still MP7... so there are now 2 MP7 sounds in this version. The rest is still EKO.

The clave is a single sound sample from the MP7 (yes I desoldered some wires). I know it's possible to tune the original MP7 sound but I refuge to do that... soldering wires is one thing but I'm terribly afraid when it comes to turning the variable resistor back to it's original position it will become a nightmare. So I detuned it in Halion. Downside is the click you hear on the sound also detunes...

Bingo! This is what I think that he used for drums on EQ4. You made a perfect example of what I tried to do earlier in the tread.

[VinceBlood]

REVOX B77 MK II - 2-TRACKS - 7.5/15 CMS was used for Equinoxe and REVOX A77 - 2-TRACKS - 3.25/7.5 CMS was used on Oxygene.
Information from Michel Geiss.

Delay are 340ms or 170ms.


Johan : here original Equinoxe 4 Eminent excerpt

[Nico_Noyau]

Yeah, I read it somewhere before because he had the A77 before the B77 and he used the A77 in his pre-oxygène period and with the money he won with Oxygène, he bought a B77

[LeoDaV]

REVOX B77 MK II - 2-TRACKS - 7.5/15 CMS was used for Equinoxe and REVOX A77 - 2-TRACKS - 3.25/7.5 CMS was used on Oxygene.
Information from Michel Geiss.

Delay are 340ms or 170ms.

The B77 MK II models have variable speed. So, he can use roughly any delay length he wanted the shorter the delay the brighter the delay and higher tape speed is. He could record the eminent and play it back with a slightly different speed and to our ears that sounds like it's detuned...

http://www.reeltoreel.de/worldwide/B77MK2.htm

Hmmm... I just read "The Revox B77 MK II (not the MK I) contains a built-in vari-speed control with a range of ± 2 half-tones. for a larger range of ± 7 half-tones it is necessary to use the external vari-speed control." so that means not like I wrote above 'roughly any'...

Thnx for digging up Vince.

J.

[LeoDaV]

Johan : here original Equinoxe 4 Eminent excerpt

LOL first chord is clearly looped.... I take it you have it from the surround version?

What I do hear it's nicely filtered and 100% eminent... just the stringensamble is a bit dirty in this recording ok... /me will use this as reference

J.

[VinceBlood]

Yes Johan I ripped the track from Aero album.

PS : 100+ Emulator diskettes are being shipped to you.

[LeoDaV]

Yes Johan I ripped the track from Aero album.

PS : 100+ Emulator diskettes are being shipped to you.

If you compare this rip with the original... it's much brighter in color... less lower frequencies... and pitched up!! (just a few cents but still)... it is the eminent though but not just the stringensemble... it's with something extra probably some setting... I'll have a listen on the real 310 instead of my VSTi wich only can do the stringensemble....

PS: great! I'm looking forward to them...

J.

[radek tymecki]

OK soon we'll start some serius modifications of Minipops We'll try to include photos, schemes etc, so everyone will be albe to mod/create this stay tuned, we need some time

We plan to
- add sync function [easy]
- optionary the small LCD with BPM
- 2 minis in one... there'll be a button. you'll be able to switch factory rhytms with your own rhytm - we plan to make a matrix with sth like sequencer. you'll be able to create real time rhytm

[Jarp2600]

Sounds good! especially the combination of two Minipops together with the step-sequencer. Real-time editing is allways nice.

[radek tymecki]

Totally forgot about this thread...

I had occasion to discuss with Michel about this drumbox so here are some true facts:
- It was used on Equinoxe 4
- It was completely new drumbox
- that had nothing to do with MP7 - so it wasn't modded MP7
- it was controlled externally from sequencer
- jmj programmed eq4 rhytm on matrisequencer

[Analog-Umph]

Interesting. He must've used the matrisequencer on E4, E5, E6 & E7 basses as well.

[Mogwai]

I had occasion to discuss with Michel about this drumbox so here are some true facts:
- It was used on Equinoxe 4
- It was completely new drumbox
- that had nothing to do with MP7 - so it wasn't modded MP7
- it was controlled externally from sequencer
- jmj programmed eq4 rhytm on matrisequencer

If that is true. Then it's strange why Geiss made it sound so close to the Minipops 7? IMO it doesn't sounds very "new". So the guess that it's a gutted MP7 isn't that far out to me.
The only thing that I don't think sounds MP7 on Equinoxe 4 is the snare. That reminds me of the EKO.

Anyways, thanks for the photos.

[Jakob BC]

Thanks for sharring this information

[radek tymecki]

i spotted that rhytmicomputer can be seen on Concorde VHS during Oxygene 5 and Eq5

[Jakob BC]

You should just have asked me

I made this list one or two years ago:

ARP 2600
ARP 3620 Keyboard (2x)
EKO Computerythm
Elka Rhapsody 610
Eminent 310 Unique
EMS Synthi AKS
EMS VCS-3 (2x)
Geiss Matrisequencer
Geiss Rythmicomputer
Korg 770
Korg MS-10
Korg MS-20
Korg PE-1000
Korg PE-2000 (2x)
Korg PS-3010 Keyboard (3x)
Korg PS-3200 (2x)
Korg SQ-10
Korg VC-10 (2x)
PPG 300 Modular
Roland CR-78
Yamaha CS-60