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Post Posted Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:11 am
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E-vert wrote:
Kanta wrote:I thought this was an instrument wishlist topic. :punch:
Who said that? :wtf2: :punch:
In case you didn't notice, this is in a section called "Instruments" :smoke:
Post Posted Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:48 am
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jp8000 wrote:
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jp8000 wrote:MC808, just because I don't have a drum machine
Dark Shrimp will sell his very soon, you should ask him ;)
any knowledge of price?
I don't remember what he told me (you know, me and my memory :punch:), but you should ask him by pm ;)
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Post Posted Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:07 pm
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E-vert wrote:-Steinberg Groove Agent 3
-Eminent 310
-Yamaha Motif 6
-A good compressor
-A good Pre-amp for my mic.
-A faster pc
-Steinberg Cubase SX 4
-An Ipod
-The New Enigma album
-The New Keane album
-The special edition of The Lion Kind dvd (Someone stole it from me !)
Forget about Cubase SX and the compressor.
If you want a legal Cubase, go for the Studio or Elements edition then. I'm sure you won't use 80% of the functions of SX (do you ever use 5.1/7.1 mixing, 32bits Dithering, 3 separate mixers, or a separate "studio room matrix monitor mixer"? Even I don't, so I guess you won't at all :')). So that would be an enormous waste of money, imho.
About the compressor, it's a nice fairy-tale that says that a good hardware compressor will make your music sound better. But it doesn't, at this scale. Even the most free VST-compressors will beat compressors to €500 in soundquality, easily. Second, the parameters of both the VST and hardware compressor are exactly the same, so it's not a matter of which compressor you use, but a matter of how you make the settings! There is not such a thing as "the magic compressor that makes everything sound wonderful". Moreover, note that every cable and DA/AD-conversion causes loss on soundquality!

For the pre-amps, they are misleading mostly. Up to €500, they don't add anything special to your sound, and the first really noticable improvements start from €1000... So be careful for 300 bucks pre-amps that scream "Real tubes inside!" or "That fat 70's sound".

For some real quality VST-effects (compressors, delays, reverbs, anything you need, actually) I would recommend you the Native Instruments Waves bundle, and a pair of good studio-monitors. Altough it doesn't look as sexy as a rack full of hardware, it will improve your sound a lot more than investing your money in stuff like expensive compressors, pre-amps, reverbs, or whatever... :)
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Post Posted Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:45 pm
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Jarp2600 wrote:
E-vert wrote:-Steinberg Groove Agent 3
-Eminent 310
-Yamaha Motif 6
-A good compressor
-A good Pre-amp for my mic.
-A faster pc
-Steinberg Cubase SX 4
-An Ipod
-The New Enigma album
-The New Keane album
-The special edition of The Lion Kind dvd (Someone stole it from me !)
Forget about Cubase SX and the compressor.
If you want a legal Cubase, go for the Studio or Elements edition then. I'm sure you won't use 80% of the functions of SX (do you ever use 5.1/7.1 mixing, 32bits Dithering, 3 separate mixers, or a separate "studio room matrix monitor mixer"? Even I don't, so I guess you won't at all :')). So that would be an enormous waste of money, imho.
About the compressor, it's a nice fairy-tale that says that a good hardware compressor will make your music sound better. But it doesn't, at this scale. Even the most free VST-compressors will beat compressors to €500 in soundquality, easily. Second, the parameters of both the VST and hardware compressor are exactly the same, so it's not a matter of which compressor you use, but a matter of how you make the settings! There is not such a thing as "the magic compressor that makes everything sound wonderful". Moreover, note that every cable and DA/AD-conversion causes loss on soundquality!

For the pre-amps, they are misleading mostly. Up to €500, they don't add anything special to your sound, and the first really noticable improvements start from €1000... So be careful for 300 bucks pre-amps that scream "Real tubes inside!" or "That fat 70's sound".

For some real quality VST-effects (compressors, delays, reverbs, anything you need, actually) I would recommend you the Native Instruments Waves bundle, and a pair of good studio-monitors. Altough it doesn't look as sexy as a rack full of hardware, it will improve your sound a lot more than investing your money in stuff like expensive compressors, pre-amps, reverbs, or whatever... :)
Totally agreed. Except for the hardware compressor. You can get some pretty good ones for a fair price and I personally prefer hardware. Not to say that software can't do the trick, most certainly - but hardware can be good. Still it's in the settings - you can easily screw up if you don't know what you are doing.
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Post Posted Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:53 pm
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Thanks for the info guys! I'm sorry for the offtopic wishlist. I will search for the Native Instruments Waves bundle. Great to have talented musicians here that can help. :fine:
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Post Posted Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:29 pm
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E-vert wrote: I'm sorry for the offtopic wishlist.
No need to apologise. It was an interesting read. :wink:
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Post Posted Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:25 pm
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On my wish-list? This...

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But I'll need a new PC to run it as well. :punch:
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Post Posted Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:22 am
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AnDrOiD wrote:On my wish-list? This...

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But I'll need a new PC to run it as well. :punch:
"The Bigger Rack"

For some unknown reason, something else popped into my head :mrgreen:
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Post Posted Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:49 am
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Jon wrote:
AnDrOiD wrote:On my wish-list? This...

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But I'll need a new PC to run it as well. :punch:
"The Bigger Rack"

For some unknown reason, something else popped into my head :mrgreen:
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Post Posted Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:46 am
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You'll need more than Reason for that. :punch:

@ :android: : So get a new PC. Then, you will have two. :fine:
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Post Posted Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:46 pm
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AnDrOiD wrote:On my wish-list? This...

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But I'll need a new PC to run it as well. :punch:
So you do need hardware after all :D
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Post Posted Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:40 pm
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I have explored the new one on their website and I think with this new version that it is beginning to be a little bit more better. Finally a better sequencer. The old sequencer of Reason 3 was like crap. The new synth Thor looks very nice. I wonder if it sounds just as nice as it looks like :)
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Post Posted Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:13 pm
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Hmmm........

Lime green Waldorf Wave

Yellow Waldorf Q with wood ends.

Minipops 7 re-issue with midi and seperate outs.

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Post Posted Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:14 pm
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matt222 wrote: Minipops 7 re-issue with midi and seperate outs.
Am I missing something?
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Post Posted Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:17 pm
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GeeJee wrote:
matt222 wrote: Minipops 7 re-issue with midi and seperate outs.
Am I missing something?
If only! Be great wouldn't it?







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