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Belarus
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:56 am
by Ronja
If anybody interested in situation in Belarus...
This is the link for the site with the short cartoons showing the Belorussian reality:
http://mult.3dway.org/mult_eng.php
I especially recommend these two:
"Will of people"
"Our school"
The author - he hides himself under the pseudonym Wiktar Bazukiewicz - was arrested by KBG about a year ago (I found out about the site when read the information in the media) and he was probably accused of president's offence. Unfortunately I don't know what's with him now.
You can also see this:
Union for Democracy support in Belarus.
Well...I think it's worth to know what's going on in the different parts of the world. I'm really happy of living in democratic Poland when thinking about Belorussians. Wish their situation will change for better soon.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:00 pm
by Ronja
Oh, I've just noticed that there's no translation for English (there's for Polish when clicking on "polski", but no English when clicking on "english"). That's really a pity.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:04 pm
by Robi
Prime minister of Belorussia is called as Europe's last dictator, am i right?
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:14 pm
by Ronja
I think words "Europe's last dictator" are used rather to describe Lukashenko (I think that's how his surname is written in English), who is the president.
The prime minister of Belarus is Siarhiej Sidorski if I'm right, but he isn't so well-known as Lukashenko.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:16 pm
by Robi
Ronja wrote:I think words "Europe's last dictator" are used rather to describe Lukashenko (I think that's how his surname is written in English), who is the president.
The prime minister of Belarus is Siarhiej Sidorski if I'm right, but he isn't so well-known as Lukashenko.
i thought Lukashenko

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:23 pm
by GeeJee
Robbie wrote:Ronja wrote:I think words "Europe's last dictator" are used rather to describe Lukashenko (I think that's how his surname is written in English), who is the president.
The prime minister of Belarus is Siarhiej Sidorski if I'm right, but he isn't so well-known as Lukashenko.
i thought Lukashenko

That's the president if I remember our last meeting correctly...

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:30 pm
by Robi
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:18 pm
by Livgivare
Well, sooner or later that dictoator is going to fall, because when Belarusians are outside of their country they will feel the feeling and want that too, freedom, and isn't he old???
Love Leelene
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:55 pm
by Ronja
He'll be 52 soon. He's now president for the third time, after changing Belorussian law (probably by falsyfying referendum) to be allowed to become a president again.
He fakes elections to pretend that he has very high support, but I read that even if he wasn't doing that, he'd win - of course with much lower percentage of votes, as Belorussians have nearly no access to informations (I mean: real informations), there're two official channels in TV, BT and ONT, that omit facts not "comfortable" for the authorities, internet is controlled...people don't really see the alternative for the reality they now live in.
The example of manipulating the society: some time ago the Polish farmer was invited to Belarus to tell people how bad it is in Poland and that it's all because of us being a part of EU, he was even promised the private meeting with Lukashenka. The mentioned man feels hurt by government as he is convinced that he received too little help after the flood (actually he got quite much money from few institutions). Of course - as I believe in freedom of speech - I think he should have right to go there and say about things he feels disappointed with, even if I don't agree with him. But was is interesting, the invitation was cancelled when Polish newspaper wrote about it. I think I don't have to add that farmers happy of Poland's participation in EU aren't invited to tell about it.
That's Belarus, many things in common with Poland some years ago. I hope they also will find their way to freedom.
What makes situation more complicated is that Russia wants to have influence on it - that makes me worrying that end of Lukashenka doesn't have to mean end of dictatorship.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:56 pm
by Finaero
Politics schmolitics.
... and that's all I really have to say

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:58 pm
by Ronja
That was really deep

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:03 pm
by Finaero
Yeah, deep from my ar-
--pegiator.

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:10 pm
by Jarp2600
Is that REALLY what you wanted to say, Finaero???

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:19 pm
by Velodynamic
If Belarus is going to be democratic is it not a risk that the same scenario that has been in Russia is going to repeat in Belarus?
The peoples felt lost and that things was getting worse because there was no longer a dictator deciding what to do or not to do.
In the long run I think I prefer a democratic politic...but I guess it's not easy changing from one thing to the other...it may take some time learning how to deal with it.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:50 pm
by Ronja
I wouldn't call Russia a democratic country...
And in fact what's making the situation in Belarus looking as it looks, is Russia's influence on it.
You're right when saying that transformation is hard - I see it all the time on the example of my own country.
Anyway - I think it was worth. Now people can at least say that things suck.