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MIDI-fyin' Minipops and other drumboxes...

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:04 pm
by radek tymecki
Sb knows sth bout in ? :)

Re: MIDI-fyin' Minipops and other drumboxes...

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:50 pm
by Equinoxe
radek tymecki wrote:Sb knows sth bout in ? :)

Yeh I'm interested in this too,for my MP7,Can't seem to find any in depth Info on the Net as of yet..

Maybe Stef(Phasereffect) can fill us in on some info...I recall reading something about the clock system from him on the old Jarre.net forum

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:20 pm
by radek tymecki
I can make separate outs, pitches and decays for some sounds... but MIDI? damn :D

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:57 pm
by Jarp2600
I don't know too much about the technically part of midi, but wasn't there one hole for triggering?

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:36 pm
by radek tymecki
dunnow... but today I'll show ya one tips that i figured in TR707..

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:51 pm
by radek tymecki
One thing that accidentaly I just figured while repairing my polysix... cut the D1 from klm366 board. now when you choose saw waveform you can hear saw and pulse. the volume of the pulse can be set using pw/pwm knob :D so ya know... it can sound fatter :D

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:43 pm
by Jarp2600
I found the timecode key here, and it seems pretty difficult to translate in a +15/-15V trigger.
It works with 8 two-bits messages, containing next values:
0 Current Frames Low Nibble
1 Current Frames High Nibble
2 Current Seconds Low Nibble
3 Current Seconds High Nibble
4 Current Minutes Low Nibble
5 Current Minutes High Nibble
6 Current Hours Low Nibble
7 Current Hours High Nibble and SMPTE Type
Or sth :P

Re: MIDI-fyin' Minipops and other drumboxes...

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:53 pm
by PHASEREFFECT
Equinoxe wrote:
radek tymecki wrote:Sb knows sth bout in ? :)

Yeh I'm interested in this too,for my MP7,Can't seem to find any in depth Info on the Net as of yet..

Maybe Stef(Phasereffect) can fill us in on some info...I recall reading something about the clock system from him on the old Jarre.net forum
Yup, the clock system is done with two simple transistors, located left handed on the lower board when showed from the front (don´t ask me about any labels, afair there was also the potentiometer for speed fine-tuning). I remember that i´ve cut simply a pin of one of them and used a +3V Signal to trigger the transistor itself. In fact it used afair 12 ppq.

If any interest is given into a midi controller for the Mp7, i´ll program it. But that also means that you have to buy some components (approx. €20) and program the devices by yourself, since i don´t have anymore a Mp7. And it will not provide any midi out or Thru, only midi in. The controller will translate the incoming midi notes into trigger signals.

Greetings
Stef

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:59 pm
by radek tymecki
no problemu :) can U help us ? ?:D

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:59 pm
by PHASEREFFECT
No problem, but give me some time. I´m generally a bit under stress since my company moves to a new location and that means in fact a lot of work.

Stef

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:28 am
by radek tymecki
No problem :)

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:23 am
by jarrekid
Here's a site that might help you out if your drum machine works off this system:
http://highlyliquid.com/kits/
Take a look at the MIDI decoder kits.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:06 pm
by radek tymecki
damn, too hard 4 me :D

i'll wait 4 phasereffect ;p

Re: MIDI-fyin' Minipops and other drumboxes...

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:08 pm
by synthx
radek tymecki wrote:Sb knows sth bout in ? :)
If you want to trigger each sound by them self through midi
then this might help you do this:

http://www.doepfer.de/mtc.htm

You would need to locate each sounds trigger pulse on the PCB
and solder a diode in series with the 5Volt TTL signal from the
mtc board. I am curently working on something similar for a
EH DRM-16.

Re: MIDI-fyin' Minipops and other drumboxes...

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:01 am
by PHASEREFFECT
synthx wrote:
radek tymecki wrote:Sb knows sth bout in ? :)
If you want to trigger each sound by them self through midi
then this might help you do this:

http://www.doepfer.de/mtc.htm

.
Jup, but that thing has a price of €99. I´ll try to make it as cheap as possible. In fact it musn´t be the high-end-solution for those fewMp7 which had to be midified. On the other hand i would also need it to trigger my CR78. I have a programmer board which can be obtained on a german electronics store for €14.99 excluding the microcontroller, a 5-9V PSU (could be also obtained from the Mp7 itself) and a serial cable. Add those things together and you will be at <>20-25 Euro. The remaining (my) part is the programming itself.

One question: Someone should give me the name of the Trigger-Inputs (Radek?) and the overall amount of them.

Stef