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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:33 am
by synthx
noyau wrote:Is it a mono synth ?
Novation Bass Station ?
Mono yes, bass station no ... Ok some more clues in order to narrow it down somewhat:

A world famous band used one of it´s smallest brothers on their first album back in the early 80´s.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:35 am
by synthx
Arsen wrote:@ Jeremy - seems to be JD800 or similar PCM synth
@ synthx - I was thinking about Alesis Andromeda A6, but when you said about the amount of keys ('not many') - I changed my mind to any synth in Yamaha CS-01's size. I hope it's not difficult. I guess in an easy way, as you see...
Must 'mysterious' mean 'rare'? If yes, I'll change the way of searching for :wink:

Mike
Hahaha ... it is getting warmer. All I will say for now. :D

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:40 am
by Nico_Noyau
Yamaha CS5 ? :D
CS15 :D
:mrgreen:

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:55 am
by synthx
noyau wrote:Yamaha CS5 ? :D
CS15 :D
:mrgreen:
Ok Close enough. It is the CS30.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:57 am
by Nico_Noyau
synthx wrote:
noyau wrote:Yamaha CS5 ? :D
CS15 :D
:mrgreen:
Ok Close enough. It is the CS30.
Congrats are for Mike, he found it before !!

So now, we have to find Jeremy's synth before all...

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:13 am
by Pete
This game is intriguing, but some rules are needed - i think.
what do you think of that:

- at least 3 sounds from the synth, or a long evolving one that may suggest the type of synthesis involved.
- specify if it's hardware or software (analog, hybrid, virtual or digital NOT specified; make it interesting in spotting the real vs virtual nuances)
- record sounds from the synths we have under our hands. It's more fun for us than recycling something from the net; sometimes the demo excerpt from the net are very lo-fi and who can be really sure of who is playing what?
- One game at once...

P

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:27 am
by Nico_Noyau
JPQ wrote:This digital synth comment is not whole truth both have own places. i like hardware but i dont have room for hardware and money for hardware. and prices are there where i live higher i think. Arturia is bit poor (still sound nice when we forget what they emulate and use few kind sounds and to my taste presets are better than geforce stuff presets and i cannot make some kind sounds)i know i prefer others. and to analog type sounds only real good solution is real analog but digital sounds there is some software what i like more than many digital hardware synths for example to me Rob Papen Blue and Linplug Albino (my main workhorses for synthetic sounds today but i hope i can get some real analogs someday but in my style currently is more demand orchestral,and other acoustic samples than synthetic stuff....) are much better than d-50 for example. but only thing is what i hope we all can found tools what we like.
I have nothing against VSTs. i have literally hundreds of them, but i also use my (used) hardware synths as much as possible, because they sound more "real" and imperfect.

What i am against is HYPED products like most of what Arturia makes.. they are garbage and the whole idea that they actually sound like the real thing..

If you want to hear some really good sounding virtual old school analog VSTs, check out XILS labs, their XILS 3 synth is amazing.
I also spent over a year creating a really good sounding analog synth in Reaktor with hundreds of real analog oscillator samples.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:27 am
by hshs
hshs wrote:
JPQ wrote:This digital synth comment is not whole truth both have own places. i like hardware but i dont have room for hardware and money for hardware. and prices are there where i live higher i think. Arturia is bit poor (still sound nice when we forget what they emulate and use few kind sounds and to my taste presets are better than geforce stuff presets and i cannot make some kind sounds)i know i prefer others. and to analog type sounds only real good solution is real analog but digital sounds there is some software what i like more than many digital hardware synths for example to me Rob Papen Blue and Linplug Albino (my main workhorses for synthetic sounds today but i hope i can get some real analogs someday but in my style currently is more demand orchestral,and other acoustic samples than synthetic stuff....) are much better than d-50 for example. but only thing is what i hope we all can found tools what we like.
I have nothing against VSTs. i have literally hundreds of them, but i also use my (used) hardware synths as much as possible, because they sound more "real" and imperfect.

What i am against is HYPED products like most of what Arturia makes.. they are garbage and the whole idea that they actually sound like the real thing..

If you want to hear some really good sounding virtual old school analog VSTs, check out XILS labs, their XILS 3 synth is amazing.
I also spent over a year creating a really good sounding analog synth in Reaktor with hundreds of real analog oscillator samples.
you mean sound thing in arturia they dont sound real? this thing is what i hate and i cannot understand how JMJ says Minimoog V is best Minimoog emulation (if remember correctly marketing text in their homepage) when many people which like moog more uses other emualtions. and i today found how huge differencies are in saw samples in my juno-g. and makes even more diffenries when i add filter. and still arturia stuff have nice sounds but not good analog emulation. to me these are not suitable at all high sounds when i must use others... i try mix best of both worlds.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:27 am
by Nico_Noyau
Pete wrote:This game is intriguing, but some rules are needed - i think.
what do you think of that:

- at least 3 sounds from the synth, or a long evolving one that may suggest the type of synthesis involved.
- specify if it's hardware or software (analog, hybrid, virtual or digital NOT specified; make it interesting in spotting the real vs virtual nuances)
- record sounds from the synths we have under our hands. It's more fun for us than recycling something from the net; sometimes the demo excerpt from the net are very lo-fi and who can be really sure of who is playing what?
- One game at once...

P
Yes, I think it is better to have these 3 points.
And it is good to let us to give an excerpt of virtual or hardware synth and to specify it.

Ok for these rules ?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:10 am
by Mike Earsen
I agree... But playing by synth in my hands would be so easy for you, cause I'd use only software. :wink: But I could use some sounds taken from hardware (I mean samples). Sounds, which are almost unable to get in another synths (PCM too).

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:14 am
by Nico_Noyau
Same case for me, I have only one hardware synth which I use too as master keyboard, but I have samples and good VSTs ;)

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:39 am
by Mike Earsen
OK, I recorded something. This time it will be very easy.
This (hardware) synth itself maybe isn't mysterious, but I love some of this... factory sound patches.

New Age sounds...

There's more than one synth with these built-in sound patches, so what's the name of 76-key version...

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:51 am
by Nico_Noyau
Korg 01/w ?

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:00 pm
by Mike Earsen
Quite close. But as I wrote: What is a name of 76-key synth with these factory sound patches you can hear in this demo.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:03 pm
by Nico_Noyau
Korg 01/W Pro :D
Bwah, I love this synth :P
Sounds like a Wavestation or a M1, no ?