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Finaero wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:26 pm ... he's claiming that they're not from the album either...

Bootleggers claim all sorts of things. Since they are are unofficial bootlegs without provenance, you have no guarantee what's in them, or if they are as described.

Dr_Jones wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 6:09 pm I suspect the poster is the booklet, or at least has all the things which are in the booklet too.

As far as I know, the poster is an addition the the exact replicas of the original vinyl inner sleeves. The CD set, whilst missing the poster has a booklet with new sleevenotes. Perhaps as you say Dr. Jones they (the poster and booklet) will have have elements from each other on them.

The Concerts in China: 40th Anniversary Limited Gatefold Vinyl 2LP

Pre-order

Release Date 02 December 2022

Source: https://www.recordstore.co.uk/recordsto ... N4B0000000

2 december? I can get the LP on 25 november. Or is that the special Record Store Day release? And if yes, what's the difference? Questions, questions.

A Dadwater remaster with a new poster sounds like the worst Record Store exclusive edition one could get

(For that price, at any rate)

FIRST!!!
2 CD quality edition, with relief effects, 2 booklets.
Hoping that the audio quality is up to par...

2 booklets? Nice! I'll be getting it tomorrow.

I use headphones for a first listening...
Quality is here, near the original sound BUT ...
I let you make your own opinion

Looks like it has better DR scores than the 2014 remaster (that had DR7 and DR6, the new one has DR9 and DR10).. that's progress!
These are 48khz flacs but I guess the CD has the same values.

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Analyzed: The Concerts in China (40th Anniversary - Remastered Edition) / Artist: Jean Michel Jarre
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DR Peak RMS Duration Title [codec]
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DR10 -0.88 dB -14.12 dB 4:50 01 - L'Ouverture / The Overture [flac]
DR9 -0.83 dB -12.45 dB 6:50 02 - Arpegiateur / Arpegiator [flac]
DR8 -0.85 dB -11.60 dB 7:46 03 - Equinoxe, Pt. 4 / Equinoxe Part 4 [flac]
DR10 -0.88 dB -14.75 dB 9:42 04 - Jonques De Pêcheurs Au Crepuscule / Fishing Junks at Sunset [flac]
DR11 -0.89 dB -16.00 dB 1:23 05 - L'Orchestre Sous La Pluie / Band in the Rain [flac]
DR8 -0.88 dB -11.48 dB 9:51 06 - Equinoxe, Pt. 7 / Equinoxe Part 7 [flac]
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Number of files: 6
Official DR value: DR9

Sampling rate: 48000 Hz
Average bitrate: 1730kbs
Bits per sample: 32 bit

Dr14 T.meter 1.0.16
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Analyzed: The Concerts in China (40th Anniversary - Remastered Edition) / Artist: Jean Michel Jarre
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DR Peak RMS Duration Title [codec]
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DR9 -0.82 dB -11.01 dB 4:20 01 - Orient Express [flac]
DR13 -2.58 dB -23.15 dB 0:27 02 - Chants Magnetiques, Pt. 1 / Magnetic Fields Part 1 [flac]
DR10 -2.01 dB -18.29 dB 3:45 03 - Chants Magnetiques, Pt. 3 / Magnetic Fields Part 3 [flac]
DR9 -0.86 dB -11.32 dB 6:45 04 - Chants Magnetiques, Pt. 4 / Magnetic Fields Part 4 [flac]
DR10 -2.05 dB -18.97 dB 2:06 05 - Harpe Laser / Laser Harp [flac]
DR9 -0.84 dB -12.64 dB 7:00 06 - Nuit A Shanghai / Night in Shanghai [flac]
DR11 -0.89 dB -13.92 dB 2:10 07 - La Dernière Rumba / The Last Rumba [flac]
DR8 -0.82 dB -10.46 dB 6:17 08 - Chants Magnetiques, Pt. 2 / Magnetic Fields Part 2 [flac]
DR9 -0.85 dB -11.78 dB 3:58 09 - Souvenir de Chine / Souvenir of China [flac]
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Number of files: 9
Official DR value: DR10

Sampling rate: 48000 Hz
Average bitrate: 1714kbs
Bits per sample: 32 bit

Dr14 T.meter 1.0.16
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Souvenir of China is completely failed but why?
The "lead" synth, the whole melody crushed by certain sounds constituting the rhythm...
The normal oscillation of the lead is also very marked as a result.
No other edition does that.
Just that ruins it all for me. Really a shame because the rest is correct although winded but nothing equivalent to the 2014 edition.

Just one person or a few wise ears to validate everything in post production... it's not complicated... out of respect for the work and the end user.

I just heard what you mean, it's quite obvious indeed...
Here's the 1989 version: And here the new master: It' sounds like there's too much compression on it.

And here's the 2014 master which is much less compressed but has a brickwall master:

Dr_Jones wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:40 am I just heard what you mean, it's quite obvious indeed...
Here's the 1989 version:
cic1989.mp3

And here the new master:
cic2022.mp3

It' sounds like there's too much compression on it.

Yes the compression is the problem and magnetic fields 2 is just limit.... like if the effect was applied on the last track too...
Finally the original was good enough

To add my two pence worth. This edition is closer to the original and lacks the added excesses of the previous edition. (48/24 digital file)

Here`s to a new approach to the older material, and that maybe a 40th anniversary edition of zoolook will not be a complete disaster like the 30th one was.

Dr_Jones wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:40 am I just heard what you mean, it's quite obvious indeed...
Here's the 1989 version:
cic1989.mp3

And here the new master:
cic2022.mp3

It' sounds like there's too much compression on it.

And here's the 2014 master which is much less compressed but has a brickwall master:
cic2014.mp3

Something weird is also going on in the final section magnetic fields4 4. I have mastered a few albums and it looks like they have applied a template to the whole album and not checked everything through. It is surprising the parts that limit out, that you would not expect.