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Game of Death 1 and 2

An episode of the newest season of 24. Jack Bauer is still Da Man!

The X Factor. I did enjoy these performances:
John & Edwards - Oops I Did It Again (Britney)
Jamie Archer - Hurt (Christina Aguilera)

Oxygene 3d Live in your livingroom (3D version)

Minimum maximum, both discs

Matrix Revolutions

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mathetes1963 wrote:Matrix Revolutions

Much, much better than number 2. Though still far from the first one.

Something happened to the storyline, and 2 and 3 feel like they went off the road a little bit.

Analog-Umph wrote:

mathetes1963 wrote:Matrix Revolutions

Much, much better than number 2. Though still far from the first one.

Something happened to the storyline, and 2 and 3 feel like they went off the road a little bit.

The first one was something special. I lost interest after the second one. IMO the third one gets too messy and crazy. Everything just changes and turns into some futuristic fantasy.

Jakob BC wrote:

Analog-Umph wrote:

mathetes1963 wrote:Matrix Revolutions

Much, much better than number 2. Though still far from the first one.

Something happened to the storyline, and 2 and 3 feel like they went off the road a little bit.

The first one was something special. I lost interest after the second one. IMO the third one gets too messy and crazy. Everything just changes and turns into some futuristic fantasy.

It became a caricature of itself. It became self-conscious.

The first movie is all about waking up and seeing the world with new eyes, ie seeing things you couldn't possibly imagine to be true. And it works very well, it crosses over into popular culture, into the lives of its audience - to whatever degree. It's a very empowering movie and by the end, the audience walks away having almost the same high that audiences had in '77 with Star Wars.

But then came 2 and 3. Watching them I get the feeling someone made the Wachowski brothers dumb down their original ideas. As if to say, 'no, no, we can't have people waking up and thinking for themselves'.

On top of that, suddendly Neo and gang weren't all that powerful as they appeared at the end of 1. The ritualistic dance in 2 had a lot of undertones that I didn't like, for all sorts of reasons. Then you had the garbage about computer programs....and so on.

Though there's plenty of sites out there explaining 2 and 3 in detail, and I've read some of them. The philosophy stuff is just off the wall, as you can see in this article: http://wylfing.net/essays/matrix_revolutions.html

I did like the action in 3, but as is true of all latest CGI powered fiction movies, it's just too fast (even though it looks cool) and totally unrealistic.

Everybody takes George Lucas's example of (fast, faster, more intense) too far, and they all try to top each other. But the movies at the same time have little to no substance, thus making them forgettable and eventually useless to wider society.

Ultimately the purpose of the movies (well 2 and 3), is some sort of social agenda how everybody different should just get along and be nice to each other. It's a very Marxist piece of propaganda, along with many other things, which exceed the purpose of this post and this site, so I won't mention them.

I dunno, maybe the brothers needed to reel people in with 1 or maybe something did happen behind the scenes and they changed storylines in the concept stage, we'll never know.

When the Matrix came out, I was a bit of a gun freak, so the shootingscenes were essential to me. It means that I was more fascinated by the story within the matrix world, and not the "real" sewer underground sci-fi world. It was more like another standard action film. The "real" world gets more focus in the second and the third films.

So you'd rather remain plugged in?

Flying around like Neo and wanting to be someone famous like Cypher has that effect.

The Matrix starkly contrasts human desires against stark realities, wanting to be safe and taken care of against having to go out and hunt to survive. High civilisation over the low.
Or more succinctly, lazy society over the strong and brave. It's a bit of a critique on how civilisation itself has developed, as seen in Reloaded.

I find it interesting that most of these grand sci-fi/fantasy sagas are all about the hero's journey, ie our own journey through life, real life. But there are some people who are so taken with the fantasy of it, that they prefer that fantasy world of the movie/novel over the real one. In that way these sagas are detrimental to society, just as much as they are helpful in guiding it.

But that effect might have more to do with the way a society is, rather than the individual.
Though one cannot discount the major differences between each individual, nor the predisposition for certain things.

Hmm... Morning Newsbulletin, I think.

I love this kind of films, hehe.