Dr_Jones wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:51 pm
You nailed the main melody sound. The whole track sounds great in fact. One thing though: the "choir" sounds a bit off, too much reverb maybe, I don't know.
Thank you for your feedback. I will check the amount of reverb on the choir sound ! Of course some elements are still missing but it is still "work in progress" Btw if you have elements that I can add do not hesitate to share them to me, I'd be glad to use elements from you and other people
Re: Oxygene 7-13 synths
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:58 am
by Blatman
Hello guys ! More question about this album.... Do you know which synth was used for the crazy bass sound at the end or O12 ? I am not talking about the rubber fx sound but the bass sound that we can hear at the same time. On the Oxygene 12 promo version it is maybe more obvious.
Wow, Oxygene 12 sounds fantastic. The effects are exactly like the original. Can't wait to hear the finished version!
For Oxygene 8 the same, the sounds are just totally the same. I think the melody is shifted though. The main melody starts a bit too early and the end note of the has to start on a new chord if you know what I mean.
Re: Oxygene 7-13 synths
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:21 pm
by Blatman
Thank you for your feedback ! Oxygene 12 sequences are a bit complicated because they look.... random... so I am slowing down the song and try to find all notes one by one
For Oxygene 8 I understand what you mean, I will have a look at it. I have some sounds I am not 100% happy with but I am improving things all the time.
Re: Oxygene 7-13 synths
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:34 pm
by Wax Mango
Pretty much nailing these covers, Blatman! Never heard covers quite like these - but I guess it helps having access to some of the original sounds
If I were to have one constructive criticism it's that in O12, the chords need to come in quicker, on the beat. They feel a little laboured to my ears. The track is quite beat driven with tight timings and the slightest of drift is noticeable.
Re: Oxygene 7-13 synths
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:02 pm
by Blatman
Thank you Wax Mango ! Of course having Raven choir and Mellotron sounds from the sr-jv80 helped a lot ! But in fact it is only one sounds for Oxygene 8 that is the reason why it is not 100% identical to the original song. Next step is to provide a complete stems for people who wants to have fun and play songs ! It is better than midi files played on arrangers....
If you improve this track please send me elements you have I would be happy to include them in this cover !
Re: Oxygene 7-13 synths
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:41 pm
by Adam
Thanks very much, I look forward to having a play around with those.
What is the correct Tempo to use please.
Re: Oxygene 7-13 synths
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 am
by Blatman
Hello, here is my last version (a little bit shorter to match the album version, please note that the volume automation at the end is not on the STEM so it may sound strange at the end without it)
Also please note that the drums part is the wav file with "Drum Comp" in the filename. You also have access to isolated element of the drums part.
BPM is 137
Re: Oxygene 7-13 synths
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:27 pm
by Beelooo
Oxygene 8 :
Eminent 310 in combination with EHX small stone ; just change the mode and the rate and you'll get it
About the drums, maybe raven but i think there's also TR808
Oxygene 10 :
The variation arppegios is IMO the raven again with random delay generated by MIDI data saturation .JMJ détailled it in this video :
Also a good use of the nordlead 1 on the album doubled with ARP 2600.
Re: Oxygene 7-13 synths
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:59 am
by Blatman
Hmm for Oxygene 8 I think it is definitely a mix between the TR808 and a Korg Minipops sound. For the Eminent Jarre said during this interview that he used various phaser pedal. And for Oxygene 8 we can't be 100% sure that it is the SmallStone, on my cover I used the MuTron Biphase by Arturia. But it could be the Sovtek or maybe a different revision of the Smallstone !
By the way... do you know where the "rain" sound from Oxygene 7 comes from ? It doesn't look like synthesis sound but more a true rain recording, or a sample, any idea ?
Re: Oxygene 7-13 synths
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:12 pm
by Wax Mango
Regarding the Smallstone phaser, JMJ has said in several interviews that he has one that has been modified to go slower than the controls on the front allow - essentially mirroring the effect you get when a battery starts to run out and everything just goes a bit slower. Patrick Geiss is the one who did the modifications. Smallstones can run on batteries and I've run a few down getting a slower effect!
As for the sounds of the various Smallstones, I'm fortunate to own an original 60's orange one, a Sovtek one and newer red version. They do all sound different. The original sounds really gritty, but that's probably due to the electronics being 50 years old! The Sovtek one also sounds a bit gritty and the slowest speeds don't seem as slow as the EHX versions; and the newer model sounds like a lush, cleaner smallstone. They all sound gorgeous really.
Don't forget that for O7-13 JMJ claims to have used the Roland MC303 so it's possible some of the drum sounds came from that.
The rain sound at the end of O7 sounds like white noise rather than a rain sample - that's not to say that maybe he didn't mix both (a la musique concrete). I've used the Roland SH101 to get a pretty much exact sound but in reality, any analogue white noise source will probably do the job. I just find that the 101 has a real sparkle about it, when playing with the white noise. So for JMJ, it's probable that the VCS3 is the culprit as it seems that that's his go-to synth for white noise effects. The ARP 2600 noise generator just doesn't cut it for me on the white noise front - sounds a bit dull.
This is truly exceptional work. I love the stems you shared. Keep it up. I'd be interested in hearing O12 stems as well, esp. the bass!
Again, exceptional.
And once you're done with replicating them - remix them. Modernize them, add your own flair (if you can, that is - I know I can't do much except replicating!)