Analog-Umph wrote:I think some else here also suggested that the Rhythmin' Computer isn't a standalone piece of original kit, but merely a combination of the Harmonic Synthesizer and Minipops, or HS and EKO CR.
That could be true. But if the EKO was used on Oxygene it would be only as a trig device. There are no drum sounds from it on the album AFAIK.
Jakob BC wrote:but how does tapeloop work?
It will explain better than my bad english. Just remember that they did this with reel-to-reel tapes back in the past. It has better quality. Other than that it's pretty much the same.
Jakob BC wrote: EDIT: he also mentioned during Oxygene 5 that the RMI was the only sequencer used on the album.
I would say the RMI and the EMS AKS. But I won't question the man himself.
radek tymecki wrote:In some places it couldnt be tapeloop because of changing filter
I would say that it could be if JMJ fed the sound through the filter of either the ARP or EMS.
At first I also believed that the EMS AKS was responsible for the O2 loop. But then somebody on this forum...I think it was Leodav...said that the sequencer couldn't be programmed with that many steps!?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:30 am
by radek tymecki
AKS had 256 step sequencer. There were only 2 places in this sequence where the tape was cut. Also... The sequence tempo is DIFFRENT from original track [sth bout... ~8 bpm's diffrence]
I really doubt that EKO or RC were used on Oxygene
and here r some shots that probably were not seen earlier
There is sth like cable interface [just like in Oberheims] which was used with Matrisequencer i think + in/out... dunnow if it was audio in or what?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:05 am
by Jakob BC
Those pics are seen before, when you posted them ½ a year ago or something
Anyway what excatly does the sequencerpart look on the Synthi? We have seen JMJ with the Synthi w/ membranekeyboard.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:07 pm
by Analog-Umph
radek tymecki wrote:
Analog-Umph wrote:I remember discussing it in late 2006 on EM forum, and it's been discussed here. But I still don't know if he used the 2600 or the RMI for that sequence. Or how it was sequenced in the first place, though LeoDav makes a pretty good case that it was done with 2 ARP sequencers.
It was Synthi AKS
In some places it couldnt be tapeloop because of changing filter
The organ sequence sound in Oxygene 5 comes from eminent. I can't remember which registers sould be used but I'm 100% sure it was Eminent.
The horn strings during Oxy 2 square part are from Eminent [oboe + french horn or sth like that]
That's means he hand sequenced that entire sequence. Bloody hell.
Why did they then get all riled up about sequencing the Equinoxe 1 strings, and how the Eminent couldn't be sequenced, when "they'd" already done it by hand 2 years earlier?
Maybe he played it slowly on tape and then had the sequenced sped up.
I knew Mr.Tung couldn't resist this thread for very long.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:26 pm
by radek tymecki
Analog-Umph wrote:yeah, connected up to a sequencer
Eminent was never sequenced...
Well maybe midi was used on Oxy 7-13
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:52 am
by radek tymecki
radek tymecki wrote:
Analog-Umph wrote:yeah, connected up to a sequencer
Eminent was never sequenced...
Well maybe midi was used on Oxy 7-13
Yeah that's exactly what I said, but my question still stands. I wonder why they mentioned having problems with trying to electronically sequence the Eminent for Equinoxe 1, which they couldn't and then had to by hand, when they'd already done a sequence by hand for Oxygene 5?
Both sequences are roughly of the same complexity, the only thing being, the O5 sequence was faster.
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:13 am
by radek tymecki
radek tymecki wrote:The organ sequence sound in Oxygene 5 comes from eminent. I can't remember which registers sould be used but I'm 100% sure it was Eminent.
Been doing some experiments today with the Oxygene 5 string sequence, this one http://www.sendspace.com/file/uuog3e
I'm not entirely sure, but it looks like he passed the string ensemble through the Electric Mistress or the Echoflanger, as I'm getting the same results that Jarre has on the album.
A slightly metallic lo-fi sound.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:19 pm
by Analog-Umph
Analog-Umph wrote:
radek tymecki wrote:The organ sequence sound in Oxygene 5 comes from eminent. I can't remember which registers sould be used but I'm 100% sure it was Eminent.
Been doing some experiments today with the Oxygene 5 string sequence, this one http://www.sendspace.com/file/uuog3e
I'm not entirely sure, but it looks like he passed the string ensemble through the Electric Mistress or the Echoflanger, as I'm getting the same results that Jarre has on the album.
A slightly metallic lo-fi sound.
Probably we should ask Vince about that
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:53 am
by Analog-Umph
Analog-Umph wrote:
radek tymecki wrote:The organ sequence sound in Oxygene 5 comes from eminent. I can't remember which registers sould be used but I'm 100% sure it was Eminent.
Been doing some experiments today with the Oxygene 5 string sequence, this one http://www.sendspace.com/file/uuog3e
I'm not entirely sure, but it looks like he passed the string ensemble through the Electric Mistress or the Echoflanger, as I'm getting the same results that Jarre has on the album.
A slightly metallic lo-fi sound.
MG mentioned that 70% of the album went through the Electric Mistress in more or less degree.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:28 am
by radek tymecki
Yes. There is also phased Eminent and definately mistress
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:35 pm
by Analog-Umph
radek tymecki wrote:Yes. There is also phased Eminent and definately mistress